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Right, the 26/27 PL ante-post boards have started creeping up across the non-GamStop books even before a ball is kicked at the World Cup, and a few of the early prices look genuinely soft if you can stomach tying money up for a year. I had a poke around last night and BetPanda already had top-4, relegation, outright winner and top-goalscorer markets framed, with MyStake not far behind. Posting my notes here before the prices get sharpened up post-tournament.
The bit I always bang on about: for futures, the exchange beats the sportsbook nine times out of ten on the obvious favourites because you're not paying the book's overround. Problem is liquidity on a UKGC-facing exchange is one thing, and on these crypto books it's a different game — there's no Betfair-style exchange in the non-GamStop space, so you're stuck taking fixed odds with a fat margin baked in. I clocked the outright-winner market on BetPanda running at roughly an 118% book across the top eight, which is grim. You're effectively paying ~2.3% per runner just to be in.
Where it gets interesting is the second-tier markets. Relegation and top-4 are where these books are slowest to react, because they can't just copy a sharp line off the exchange. I found a top-4 'yes' on a newly-promoted-but-spending side at 4.20 on Winstler that's 3.40 elsewhere — that's a real gap, not a rounding error. Same story on a couple of the top-goalscorer outsiders where the book clearly hasn't priced minutes/penalty duties properly yet.
My actual question for the thread though: bet now or wait for pre-season? Argument for now is the soft early prices and the fact a big WC tournament can shorten a player's club outright dramatically (think a striker who bags six in the States — his PL top-scorer price halves overnight). Argument for waiting is transfers aren't done, you don't know who's even fit, and a year of dead money is a year of dead money. I lean towards picking off the obvious value spots now and leaving the headline outright until August.
Last thing — withdrawal speed matters way more on ante-post than on a single-night acca, because you might be waiting nine months to collect. MyStake and Cryptorino have both been fine for me on BTC payouts lately, but I'd genuinely think twice about parking £200 of futures money somewhere with a dodgy payout reputation. Curious where everyone else is putting their early money & whether anyone's actually found the relegation/top-4 gaps I'm seeing.
